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#1  May 14, 2011 - 8:50pm
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prior to Beta 5 I had to use XBMC for lack of SMB support for the native media player. Since Beta 5, I have not had to use XBMC yet. If anybody is still in doubt as to whether they should purchase the ATV Flash Black software, and who was in the same situation as me, I have decided to put together a quick list of benefits of media player over XBMC.

  • Infinitely easier to setup your SMB shares than XBMC
  • Share favourites are a doddle to setup and really make your life easier (near instant access to your media)
  • Much less clicks to get to your media than XBMC
  • Ability to scroll down a list of media keeping your finger pressed on the up/down button of remote. Something that cannot be done with XBMC
  • ability to resume a video where you left it (might be able to do that on XBMC but I never found out how to :))
  • similar experience to the rest of Apple TV interface, no need to 'learn' another one
  • the media player doesn't need to be 'started up' like XBMC - makes it so much more user friendly - life loves it, hates XBMC
  • SMB shares actually work - constantly got disconnected using XBMC
  • quicker to put Apple TV to sleep (no need to press the center button a million times to get back to home menu)

It's not all black & white though, so here are the things media player needs to do before I completely uninstall XBMC off my Apple TV 2:

  • no support for subtitles
  • no support for TV shows metadata
  • media player cannot really play HD files (low memory error is returned)
  • support of DVD menus
  • no plugins (though that really isn't a problem for me, as I never used them in XBMC)

All in all, I am very pleased that I purchased the software. Yes it's in beta and there are still a few issues but the guys at Firecore seem to be working overtime to fix those issues. I'm sure we'll have a great product on our hands in no time. If anything, buy ATV Flash Black to save you the bother of buying a new Apple TV remote soon - XBMC requires so many clicks that I couldn't see my remote lasting very long:

Save your Apple TV remote - buy ATV Flash Black!

Fred

  May 14, 2011 - 9:21pm
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+1 to this sentiment.  I upgraded tonight and SMB support was all I needed (have all my media on an HP MediaSmart Server). The interface is amazing, and much more intuitive than XBMC, which I never really liked.  I actually went ahead and uninstalled XBMC. Have had no problems with playback (but I just do basic stuff, avi, mp4, and the occasional other format).

I have used -countless- streaming solutions for my living room, and this software has made the AppleTV by far the best at a fraction of the cost. My wife can even figure out how to stream media now - it's the first gadget she got excited about.

Kudos to the team. Outstanding product, and this is still a beta release...

  May 15, 2011 - 3:51am (Reply to #2)
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i think Media center has a very high WAF , ( wife acceptance factor)  and yes they find it very east to use, genre feature would be good was one comment, but hay if thats the only comment im happy.. Smile

 

She likeed the plex skins but i guess they will come soon on Media player.... any comments James?

 

  May 16, 2011 - 6:23am
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The media player is coming on really well.  I would like to be able to hide the 'local files' option or maybe just go straight to a favourite server as default. I don't know whether it needs longer buffering as I notice that in most of my avi files there is slight occasional stuttering for a fraction of a second in the audio occasionally which does not happen when playing the files through XBMC.  Saying that they also start playing much faster through media player.

  May 16, 2011 - 9:30am
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Yes, I would also like to see a slightly longer buffering. Some movies stutter on occasion, but never have issues in XBMC. There's a similar post in suggestions for this as well:

http://forum.firecore.com/topic/4458

 

  May 16, 2011 - 4:46pm
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  fredericn.0549 wrote:

prior to Beta 5 I had to use XBMC for lack of SMB support for the native media player. Since Beta 5, I have not had to use XBMC yet. If anybody is still in doubt as to whether they should purchase the ATV Flash Black software, and who was in the same situation as me, I have decided to put together a quick list of benefits of media player over XBMC.

  • Infinitely easier to setup your SMB shares than XBMC  - Only have to do this once or twice then your done anyway...
  • Share favourites are a doddle to setup and really make your life easier (near instant access to your media) - It's a menu Item to Favorites in the Main Menu
  • Much less clicks to get to your media than XBMC - Only a menu selection in XBMC too!
  • Ability to scroll down a list of media keeping your finger pressed on the up/down button of remote. Something that cannot be done with XBMC - If you select the right arrow to the scrollbar you can scoll a screen at a time in XBMC...
  • ability to resume a video where you left it (might be able to do that on XBMC but I never found out how to :)) - If I stop a movie and start it again on a future day I get a prompt to continue from point X:X or restart from the bginning.
  • similar experience to the rest of Apple TV interface, no need to 'learn' another one
  • the media player doesn't need to be 'started up' like XBMC - makes it so much more user friendly - life loves it, hates XBMC
  • SMB shares actually work - constantly got disconnected using XBMC  - It's fixed in the May 7 daily build of XBMC for aTV 2 - I wish Firecore would updated beta 5 with it...
  • quicker to put Apple TV to sleep (no need to press the center button a million times to get back to home menu) -  I leave them running and the screen saver just dimms the screem.

It's not all black & white though, so here are the things media player needs to do before I completely uninstall XBMC off my Apple TV 2:

  • no support for subtitles
  • no support for TV shows metadata
  • media player cannot really play HD files (low memory error is returned)
  • support of DVD menus
  • no plugins (though that really isn't a problem for me, as I never used them in XBMC)

All in all, I am very pleased that I purchased the software. Yes it's in beta and there are still a few issues but the guys at Firecore seem to be working overtime to fix those issues. I'm sure we'll have a great product on our hands in no time. If anything, buy ATV Flash Black to save you the bother of buying a new Apple TV remote soon - XBMC requires so many clicks that I couldn't see my remote lasting very long:

Save your Apple TV remote - buy ATV Flash Black!

Fred

I have the original apple tv and the aTV 2 in my system. I use them both for differetn things. I use a Logitech One to control them and use XBMC on both. I find that the apple remote leaves a lot to be desired. It was a bit of a hair puller to set them up independantly of each other bu tonce that was fixed life is a breeze! Especially in XBMC since that is my prefered interface on both as well. I have a 1.5tb drive attached to the original aTV with over 70 DVD ISO's available via the attached drive and a NAS. I stream from the NAS to the aTV 2 and my iTunes library synced to the original aTV via mp3's exported too. I much prefer the XBMC interface and only need to setup a few shares on my network so it isn't a big deal since they don't change. Install the latest build of XBMC for aTV 2 - http://forum.xbmc.org/showpost.php?p=768428&postcount=85 only takes about 20 minutes.

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  May 21, 2011 - 6:48am
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What is the difference between AFP and SMB when setting up remote for the media player. Both seem to work.

  May 21, 2011 - 6:50am
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Where are the best overall instructions for setting up XMBC. Very confusing interface that leads nowhere for me.

  May 21, 2011 - 7:31am (Reply to #8)
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  joseph .7360 wrote:

Where are the best overall instructions for setting up XMBC. Very confusing interface that leads nowhere for me.

I would have thoguht that www.xbmc.org was the place to look for this?

I AM A USER - NOT A FIRECORE EMPLOYEE

  October 27, 2011 - 7:01pm (Reply to #9)
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  joseph .7360 wrote:

Where are the best overall instructions for setting up XMBC. Very confusing interface that leads nowhere for me.

 

The easiest install method and works everytime is this one

 

http://forum.xbmc.org/showpost.php?p=768428&po...

  October 27, 2011 - 7:07pm (Reply to #10)
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  itimpi wrote:

I would have thoguht that www.xbmc.org was the place to look for this?

 

 

Why would you even post that comment.  Take the time and actually help someone out and not be a jerk!!!!

 

notice I didnt post that the link was right above the their post and a little searching would of given them the answer.

 

People that dont help and have smart ass answers only clutter up the forum and make it hard for them to search and find answers

 

example is now when you search xmbc your answer comes up because it has xmbc in it instead of a helpful answer

 

Thanks for helping in the future!!

  November 1, 2011 - 1:14am
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I know this is an old thread, but I'm surprised people are so keen on using Media Player over XBMC.

I guess for basic playing, simple structures, media player is fine and honestly I do tend to lean toward it for one-off media files.

But if I want to manage, say, a 8 season tv series of over 120 files, I don't want to do it in Media Player.

As for the wife friendly nature, yes this is an easier interface, but once xbmc is set up, navigating around is a dream. One click to tv shows, wide banner displays add great flair. The extensive metadata information, viewing options and so on make it a very classy solution.

Outside of that, plugin support for ice films, Hulu and loads more are not available through ATV black/media player.

There's no question, for ease and simplicity media player is great. But for a detailed media management system, nothing comes close to xbmc.

If I wanted a basic empty file list, I'd simply use my old Popcorn Hour.