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  June 27, 2018 - 9:39am
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  cchbrown032318 wrote:

Yes you’re right now that I pay attention to it. However it seems to take a long time compared to opening the Plex app, where the updates seem to pop up within a few seconds. Both apps must have the same OS restrictions. Is there something that can be done with the new Plex integration to speed up the process?

You have to remember that Plex is not just an iOS app, it's for the lack of a better analogy, the display for the application that is running on the PMS computer. The PMS does all the updating and heavy lifting even while the tvOS or iOS apps are off. Then when it's called on it merely feeds the app the information. Infuse has to do both jobs and is restricted to doing it only while active (and a very short time after close).

We're at the mercy of Apple until they relax the limitations on which apps can use the update in the background feature so Infuse can use that tool.

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  June 27, 2018 - 9:46am
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  NC Bullseye wrote:

You have to remember that Plex is not just an iOS app, it's for the lack of a better analogy, the display for the application that is running on the PMS computer. The PMS does all the updating and heavy lifting even while the tvOS or iOS apps are off. Then when it's called on it merely feeds the app the information. Infuse has to do both jobs and is restricted to doing it only while active (and a very short time after close).

We're at the mercy of Apple until they relax the limitations on which apps can use the update in the background feature so Infuse can use that tool.

I see, thanks for the explanation!

  June 29, 2018 - 6:02am
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  July 1, 2018 - 8:30pm
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  NC Bullseye wrote:

You have to remember that Plex is not just an iOS app, it's for the lack of a better analogy, the display for the application that is running on the PMS computer. The PMS does all the updating and heavy lifting even while the tvOS or iOS apps are off. Then when it's called on it merely feeds the app the information. Infuse has to do both jobs and is restricted to doing it only while active (and a very short time after close).

We're at the mercy of Apple until they relax the limitations on which apps can use the update in the background feature so Infuse can use that tool.

I was under the impression that as of 5.7 the Plex support in Infuse worked the same way as any other Plex Client, in that the PMS was the master copy and Infuse was just displaying a front end to it? If not, why not - I don't see any advantage to Infuse maintaining it's own database when i already have a Plex server for that, and the long delay waiting for the library to update after opening the app is a clear disadvantage?

  July 4, 2018 - 2:12pm
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This would greatly improve the experience of using infuse. no m ore waiting for the library to update to view newly added content.

  July 8, 2018 - 5:43am
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Hello everyone,

I just installed MrMC on my Apple TV4 with connection to PLEX. I really love the speed of updating view indicator information and adding / removing movies and series in the database. I really love INFUSE but the update of the base is really a problem. If INFUSE while connecting with PLEX could simply read the info from the PLEX database (just like MrMC) without updating its internal database, it would be really great.

I hope that a future version will achieve this result.

  July 10, 2018 - 6:29pm
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I love this idea and I agree it's a major annoyance. Especially as my library grows to over 800 films.

I know Plex has this capability, but it's only fetching the updated list from the Media Server utility that lives on my Synology so it's not quite the same. Maybe Infuse could tap into that data if Infuse is connected via Plex?

  July 19, 2018 - 2:58am
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  July 25, 2018 - 5:59am
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  DMcWetty wrote:

II know Plex has this capability, but it's only fetching the updated list from the Media Server utility that lives on my Synology so it's not quite the same. Maybe Infuse could tap into that data if Infuse is connected via Plex?

Infuse Plex integration is already doing exactly this.
Still the library update is somewhat slower then using the Plex native app.
Maybe there is some “trick” to speed up the process that only Plex knows...

  September 5, 2018 - 6:15pm
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  September 20, 2018 - 3:03am
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I would use this thread to add another piece to this discussion: the top shelf.
The Plex app is able to update it even if we don’t open the app itself.
So if I start to see a film in my launch room, and I stop it to go to the bed room, when the ATV switches on in my bedroom just selecting plex icon I can see the film as in progress.
Plex is the only app that does that: Emby, MrMC and Infuse rely to an update of the app before updating the top shelf content. Probably this a point that could investigated to improve the usability of the app without a complete refresh of the db. (It is just ami idea I don’t know technical details)

  September 30, 2018 - 4:48am
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  inariel wrote:

I would use this thread to add another piece to this discussion: the top shelf.
The Plex app is able to update it even if we don’t open the app itself.
So if I start to see a film in my launch room, and I stop it to go to the bed room, when the ATV switches on in my bedroom just selecting plex icon I can see the film as in progress.
Plex is the only app that does that: Emby, MrMC and Infuse rely to an update of the app before updating the top shelf content. Probably this a point that could investigated to improve the usability of the app without a complete refresh of the db. (It is just ami idea I don’t know technical details)

Updating library in the background would eventually solve this too, I guess.

  October 2, 2018 - 5:25am
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+1 for background updates!

  October 26, 2018 - 5:38am
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Almost tops the 'likes' list, yet - don't see it on the roadmap ... weird.

  October 28, 2018 - 1:40am
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  November 6, 2018 - 2:59am
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  November 8, 2018 - 2:37am
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+1, I have a library with +900 film and +17000 tv episodes.
It takes more than 10 minutes for an update !

Edit : fireCore just released a new beta version of infuse 5.9 who dropped update time drastically for me :
PMS: Faster and more efficient incremental library updates in response to notifications from Plex
PMS: Continuous indexing with state saving for better handling of some larger Plex shares

  November 27, 2018 - 4:53pm
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Squire somehow manages to update new titles from the cloud and I see them as soon as I open the app, without me having to update manually. It also has trailers.

Infuse pretty much requires several minutes to update the library, even if there are only one or two new titles. I hope this gets resolved soon.

  November 27, 2018 - 7:31pm
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  Zozon wrote:

Squire somehow manages to update new titles from the cloud and I see them as soon as I open the app, without me having to update manually. It also has trailers.

Infuse pretty much requires several minutes to update the library, even if there are only one or two new titles. I hope this gets resolved soon.

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IMPORTANT: in order to make Squire work, you will need to run Squire Helper on your Mac and on the same network

This is in bold large print on their website home page.
This is why it can provide fast updates not that the ATV app is doing the work of updating.

Also it's no longer available on the App Store per their website.

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  November 27, 2018 - 8:12pm
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Actually, you do not need Squire Helper to run the free version of Squire, which is what I've been doing.

I have exactly the same content on one of the accounts and Squire (the free version, no Helper installed) updates the titles automatically, so that they are available almost instantly after loading up a title on the cloud. Infuse generally requires me to go to the Library menu and force update, which takes a few minutes to complete.

I can deal with it, but my girlfriend finds it cumbersome and annoying. I am not sure how Squire is doing it (I find their player to be less robust than Firecore's), but they do it.

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This is in bold large print on their website home page.
This is why it can provide fast updates not that the ATV app is doing the work of updating.

Also it's no longer available on the App Store per their website.

  November 27, 2018 - 8:26pm
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I need to apologize, I was looking on a small screen when I researched the Squire app and I got something other than the actual app website. It does say you need either the helper or plex to use Squire but it is apparently still available on the app store. It has 100% poor ratings but we all know how that goes.

Sorry for the misinformation in my earlier post.

It'd just be nice if Apple would open up the background processing to some more apps like Infuse.

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  November 27, 2018 - 8:35pm
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  Zozon wrote:

I am not sure how Squire is doing it (I find their player to be less robust than Firecore's), but they do it.

I've not used Squire, but does it actually maintain its own database of your Plex library as Infuse does, or is it acting like every other Plex client and just displaying the library the PMS is maintaining (which is obviously updated on the server side?). Honestly i prefer Plex's way of doing things, but Infuse seem determined to create their own index.

  November 27, 2018 - 9:46pm
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Hm, I don't use Plex either anymore, so Squire is definitely not using its database (my Plex server box and my NAS have been off for about 6 months now Smile

I generally prefer Infuse above all other video library apps and Squire had some real stutter issues from Put.io for me, so I don't use it. But it does update fast, so I keep it to show my girlfriend a new title and to play the preview (yes, it does that, too!) for her, and if we decide to watch it, I switch to Infuse.

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I've not used Squire, but does it actually maintain its own database of your Plex library as Infuse does, or is it acting like every other Plex client and just displaying the library the PMS is maintaining (which is obviously updated on the server side?). Honestly i prefer Plex's way of doing things, but Infuse seem determined to create their own index.

  November 28, 2018 - 5:24am
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I don't understand why mrmc is compatible with the plex collections and has been updating the library in background for a long time, while infuse is still unable to do it.
After all these months for me it's a mystery...

  March 21, 2019 - 5:19am
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The day Apple allows for background refreshing will improve my Infuse experience tremendously.