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#1  March 18, 2020 - 4:20pm
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Hello,

I have seen similar posts to this topic. I too am coming from an iTunes large library and looking to switch to infuse.

All of my media already has all required sorting information in standard metadata tags.
I would like to Not use the infuse function for auto-downloading any metadata and rather simply switch on the embedded metadata option and have it all work.
Like another post I saw, all of my media already has gone through Subler and had completely accurate metadata set in all of the standard tags.
So everything is already marked as Movie or TV Show or home movie etc. Can Infuse recognize that?
All of the TV shows are already marked with a series name, season number, and episode number. Can Infuse recognize that?

Just like the other post, I do not want to resort to writing custom scripts to generate xml files, or rename all of my files to the Infuse naming format, or even group everything into folder structures. All of that information is already in the standard metadata tags.

Infuse can already read some metadata tags. Can these few extra tags be added so that users with existing, large, curated, cleanly tagged libraries do not have to perform any additional steps for Infuse to properly ingest the media; it could just work.

I am happy to provide specifics regarding the tags (buy they are just the standards recognized by iTunes) and work with testing or whatever is needed.

Thank you

Ben

  March 31, 2020 - 7:09pm
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Could you list the tags? I think it would be helpful. The subler page doesn't list them neither in docs nor FAQs section. Probably because they are long standardized so they are well known, but it would be helpful anyway I think.

I also don't understand why this is hard.

  April 3, 2020 - 9:17am
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Hello,

Some Meta Tag information.

I provide two examples, one TV show and one movie.

(note, this relates to h264 mp4 video files. I have not had time to examine h265, mkv container, or other options. However, as the primary topic is transferring from iTunes, that would be h264 mp4 anyway)

I tried to list the common tags. First, subler is used to identify and tag the file. Those common subler tags are listing under the Subler Common Tags heading.
Then, just for reference, the VLC Common Tags section shows how VLC recognized those subler tags. (inside brackets are how vlc labels it)
Then, how iTunes recognizes the tags.

After that, I identified what I would think are the few critical tags that would provide the most usefulness.

By supporting the standard/critical tags, Infuse could easily categorize the display of media based on embedded metadata only.

This would allow users to disable metadata fetching and leverage years of their work organizing their collection how they see fit. There are many examples of shows and movies that do not work well with auto-metadata fetching and must be manually adjusted. These manual adjustments should be saved as metadata in the file in a standard way (such as subler, vlc, and itunes all recognize) and be read by other programs such as Infuse.

Also, there are many Infuse customers that do not have the luxury of seemingly unlimited internet bandwidth and may be on metered connections, or even in a remote location without internet. Those customer do not deserve to be excluded. Fetching metadata is not something they want, or can, do. Infuse is a great tool that allows alternatives to streaming media for the vast number of people without access to luxury bandwidth by creating a local network video system. The metadata feature of Infuse should follow this concept.

Infuse being able to support existing metadata would be a valuable feature for many customers. I would even be happy if that feature is behind the Infuse paywall.

Thank you

** TV SHOW EXAMPLE **

  • Subler Common Tags *
    Name: The Interview
    Artist: MASH
    Album Artist: M
    ASH
    Album: MASH, Season 4
    Media Kind: TV Show
    Genre: Comedy
    Release Date: 1976-02-24
    Track #: 24/0
    TV Show: M
    ASH
    TV Episode #: 24
    TV Network: CBS
    TV Episode ID: 424
    TV Season: 4
    Description: Clete Roberts introduces this segment as...
    Long Description: Clete Roberts introduces this segment as...
    Series Description: The 4077th Mobile Army Surgical Hospital is stuck in...
    Rating: USA TV: TV-PG
    Cast: Jamie Farr, Alan Alda, Loretta Swit, William...
    Director: Larry Gelbart
    Screenwriters: Larry Gelbart
    {and an embedded image for cover art}
  • VLC Common Tags *
    Name [Title]: The Interview
    Artist [Artist]: MASH
    Release Date [Date]: 1976-02-24 [1976]
    TV Show [Artist]: M
    ASH
    TV Episode # [Track number]: 24
    Description: Clete Roberts introduces this segment as...
    {and an embedded image for cover art}
  • iTunes Common Tags *
    Name [title]: The Interview
    Album Artist [album artist]: MASH
    Media Kind [media kind]: TV Show
    Genre [genre]: Comedy
    Release Date [release date]: 1976-02-24
    Track # [track]: 24/0 [24]
    TV Show [show]: M
    ASH
    TV Episode # [episode]: 24
    TV Episode ID [episode id]: 424
    TV Season [season]: 4
    Description [Short Description]: Clete Roberts introduces this segment as...
    Long Description [Full Description]: Clete Roberts introduces this segment as...
    {and an embedded image for cover art}

** MOVIE EXAMPLE **

  • Subler Tags *
    Name: The Ring
    Artist: Alfred Hitchcock
    Media Kind: Movie
    HD Video: 1080p
    Genre: Mystery
    Release Date: 1927-10-01
    Description: Both Jack Sander and Bob...
    Long Description: Both Jack Sander and Bob...
    Studio: British International Pictures
    Cast: Carl Brisson, Lillian Hall-Davis, Ian...
    Director: Alfred Hitchcock
    Producers: John Maxwell
    Screenwriters: Alfred Hitchcock
    Sort Name: Hitchcock 1927
    {and an embedded image for cover art}
  • iTunes Tags *
    Name [title]: The Ring
    sort as: Hitchcock 1927
    Artist: Alfred Hitchcock
    Media Kind [media kind]: Movie
    HD Video: 1080p
    Genre [genre]: Mystery
    Release Date year: 1927-10-01 [1927]
    Description [Short Description]: Both Jack Sander and Bob...
    Long Description [Full Description]: Both Jack Sander and Bob...
    Studio [studio]: British International Pictures
    Cast [actors]: Carl Brisson, Lillian Hall-Davis, Ian...
    Director [director]: Alfred Hitchcock
    sort as: Alfred Hitchcock
    Producers [producer]: John Maxwell
    Screenwriters [screenwriter]: Alfred Hitchcock
    Sort Name: Hitchcock 1927
    {and an embedded image for cover art}

** CRITICAL TAGS **

  • Critical Tags *
    Name [title]: The Interview
    Media Kind [media kind]: TV Show
    media kind: { Music Video | Movie | Home Video | TV Show | Podcast }
    Genre [genre]: Mystery
    Release Date [release date]: 1976-02-24
    TV Show [show]: MAS*H
    TV Episode # [episode]: 24
    TV Season [season]: 4
    {and an embedded image for cover art}

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