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#1  March 13, 2011 - 5:17am
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Hey, most of the time I read the twitter feed, the blog comments and even the forums, the comments are something like this:

  • I jailbroke and nothing is working
  • I jailbroke and nothing I was looking forward to is working
  • "I hate firecore" which is usually quickly followed by...
  • Supporters that point out that firecore is doing what no one else is daring to do and that the software is in BETA

To be honest, I'm mostiy in the camp of people supporting firecore. They have an established track record and tossing out the 'vapor' buzz word is unfair at best. Plus it's $20 people. You probably spent more at Outback Steakhouse. Anyway, that's my 2 cents about that. Whiners will always find some justification.

So I'm curious - who out there has a mostly working ATV2 setup? Who is using it on a daily basis? Maybe some of the features aren't working - doesn't have to be 100%. Bottom line - who is running aTV Flash on ATV2 with any kind of positive results?

Maybe it's no one, maybe it's a ton of people. Just figured I'd approach this from a possibly positive perspective.

Thanks,

K

 

  March 13, 2011 - 5:50am
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I am running with ATV Flash beta without major issues (other than I would expect from a beta).   Because I am Windows 7 based I used GreepPois0n to do the Jailbreak and that was very painless.
I thhink the very nature of the product means that it tends to be those who encounter issues who tend to be the ones who post a lot.  Those who have no issues are quite likely to enver even bother to visit the forum.

I AM A USER - NOT A FIRECORE EMPLOYEE

  March 13, 2011 - 7:23am (Reply to #2)
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y, I agree - I just wanted to see if there were any success stories and thought it would be encouraging to others to see some also.

thx,

K

  March 13, 2011 - 10:02am
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I did an untethered jailbreak and it did require some trial and error - but once done, I was up and running. 

  March 13, 2011 - 10:16am
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Here all OK, I'm happy.

  March 13, 2011 - 1:36pm
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I'm happy with it so far.  Things were running better with 4.2.1 as I am now on 4.3.  I had to have the 5.1 in Netflix.   I eagerly await the new features while enjoying what I have working.  I just hope that this software gets released before Apple opens up their own AppleTV App store!   Wink

  March 13, 2011 - 2:53pm
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I have said before, Firecore could better manage customer expectations. I get the feeling that they don't have someone over there of a high caliber on the CS side. Having said that, they are responsive (if not proactive) to questions. The product is coming along. I have it working now with nito, XBMC. Waiting for the stand alone video player, SMB, flash and so on. 

So I'm happy and things are just getting better. In the mean time I have a life to lead and don't feel like stressing if my wish list is satisfied any given day. I put in $120 for this rig and am getting close to that in functionality now. Once they are done then I'll be getting more.

Concluding - Firecore relies on the work of others. That's hard for people to understand who have not jailbroken another device. Firecore is a small company. They don't charge much. They don't communicate well, but they try. Probably by mid summer all this will be mute.

 

  March 13, 2011 - 5:07pm
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I've jailbroken 2 x ATV2 untethered without a hitch 1st time with both units. in fact was surprised how smoothly it went after reading posts from people who had difficulty. Probably has a lot to do that I didn't rush into it and followed instructions to the letter... after lots of reading.

I've been a user of aTV Flash on ATV1 for over a year and very happy with result. Now enjoying all the function of ATV2, iTunes, Home Sharing, Netflix, etc, in separate areas of house, with XMBC to watch my library of 100's films and TV shows.

Currently using 4.2.1, won't upgrade to 4.3 until untethered jailbreak is available.

Used Seas0nPass to do jailbreak, again without a hitch.

I agree with cjaerw.103340, for $120 (or $129 for me as i'm in Australia) + Firecore, i'm pretty satisfied with result. And look forward to further improvements.

I also agree that Firecore can do lot better in communications. 

Even though i could probably do jailbreak, installation of XMBC, without use of Firecore. i see the value in $'s i invested in Firecore is well paid back by savings in time and effort it would take me to do work they do in package product. Its a no brainer for me.

Based on the dev life of this product so far, i give it 8 out of 10 marks. And remember, its still beta!

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  March 13, 2011 - 5:07pm
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I've jailbroken 2 x ATV2 untethered without a hitch 1st time with both units. in fact was surprised how smoothly it went after reading posts from people who had difficulty. Probably has a lot to do that I didn't rush into it and followed instructions to the letter... after lots of reading.

I've been a user of aTV Flash on ATV1 for over a year and very happy with result. Now enjoying all the function of ATV2, iTunes, Home Sharing, Netflix, etc, in separate areas of house, with XMBC to watch my library of 100's films and TV shows.

Currently using 4.2.1, won't upgrade to 4.3 until untethered jailbreak is available.

Used Seas0nPass to do jailbreak, again without a hitch.

I agree with cjaerw.103340, for $120 (or $129 for me as i'm in Australia) + Firecore, i'm pretty satisfied with result. And look forward to further improvements.

I also agree that Firecore can do lot better in communications. 

Even though i could probably do jailbreak, installation of XMBC, without use of Firecore. i see the value in $'s i invested in Firecore is well paid back by savings in time and effort it would take me to do work they do in package product. Its a no brainer for me.

Based on the dev life of this product so far, i give it 8 out of 10 marks. And remember, its still beta!

Lee

  March 15, 2011 - 9:50am
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It works for me, quite well.  So well, I had to buy a second AppleTV just so I could play.

  March 15, 2011 - 10:51am
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Not bad for a beta.  I paid the 19.99 due to my lack of knowledge about apple tv.  But, now I know how to get around and do my own upgrades, so probably I will not upgrade.  XBMC and Plex on ATV2G have all the funtional requirements I want.  Plex has a live tv stream of Aljazera plus other plugs that in due time will work.  XBMC is the most stable right now.  I am using SMB to stream my library and right now is working great.  So far, for a beta version all this apps are working as intended.  Firecore initial add ons are no longer usefull to me, because XBMC is not only doing it, but with all the additional add ons, I am getting more than I bargain for.   There is a guy out there that was able to plug ESPN3 as an add on to XBMC and it works like a charm.

Nonetheless, I thank Firecore for introducing me to this new hobby, but XBMC and soon Plex will make them absolite.

Unless, they come out with something better and reliable.

 

Good luck firecore

  March 15, 2011 - 2:45pm
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I've been using ATV flash since July 2009.  While I did get it up and running pretty well on my ATV (first gen), I would describe it overall as fairly unstable.  in fact, I plugged my ATV into a surge strip with an on/off toggle switch because it SO often needs a hard reboot.  If you view it as a work in progress, then ATV flahs is more than acceptable for what it provides.  But frankly, there is much weirdness (in addtion to the instability) to tolerate, especially wrt subtitles and audio channels.  Importing music took, literallly, days (I've got a very large library but certain filenames would, apparently, crash the import).  Boxee worked initially... then I couldn't get it to find anything on my network, though I made several efforts.  Etc... I could go on.  It's a bit like modern medicine:  it works  ... sort of--and it depends on context.

As for ATV 2g, I had gobs of problems trying to install it (and yes, I read the instructions quite fastidiously), but finally did JB it using GreenP0ison.  The  new iOS update has features which I'm eager to try (namely, MLB streams and 5.1 channels on Netflix streams) but the thought of another tethered boot is unpleasant.

Despite these criticisms, I do think it has been worth the hours spent wooing it.  We are talking about transforming the ATV functionality, so the potential upside is very large.  But if you're not a geek it may all be a bit forbidding.

 

  March 18, 2011 - 8:36am
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all fine - no problems currently using 4.2.1, jailbroken with gp6

im using ATV Flash Back BETA with Couchsurfer and XBMC

  March 18, 2011 - 6:21pm
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Can't seem to get the tethered JB working and spent a lot of time reading, researching and double checking - got it to tether boot once but aTV flash didn't see the device, following reload now I'm at the point where tethered boot isn't working at all,

And, contrarory to some of the posters opinions in this thread when people hit issues, I'm no noob when it comes to tech in general or indeed Jail breaking - but hey, I can wait a while for seasonpass to be untethered or GP to work on 4.3 and then I'll get to see what the fuss is about Wink

  March 19, 2011 - 5:10pm
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After 12 wasted, wretched hours spent in [what felt like] endless install, uninstall, re-install cycles that always ended with only a few seconds of the Apple logo before losing HDMI output, I can't comment here.

 

  March 19, 2011 - 6:29pm
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For myself lost the tethered JB after it went to sleep.

Found the only way to get it going again was to update through itunes and then had to plug into TV. and did do the wifi.

Then done the tethered JB again and all went fine and never let it go to sleep because you'll be starting over.

Tried for a hour not hooking up after update and always ending with no signal but zero issues after I hooked it up to tv first

 

 

 

  March 20, 2011 - 11:00pm
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I see people using NitoTV, XBMC, Plex, etc. and being pretty satisfied of AppleTV and Firecore.Thus, I feel like a man from another planet here and I am asking myself 2 questions:What Firecore has to do with it?What Firecore gave me that I could not take elsewhere for free in a better form?One answer: nothing.

  March 23, 2011 - 5:12am (Reply to #17)
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I've spent the 20$ and I'm satisfied with Firecore.

They have nothing to do with the applications, but they help you to manage them and keep them updated. That means a huge amount of time saved. I think that's a good value for the money.

 

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  March 26, 2011 - 1:36am
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Not happily installed and working for me at all for me sorry. I have vented in other posts so I'm not going to go on again about my issue.

What I would like to say is I wholeheartedly agree with previous posts saying that FC need to work on managing customer expectations. What I see is people thinking this is Release Canaditate or beyond software, and it clearly isn't. This software still has major "showstopper-class" bugs and deserves to still be in beta. I think a way to be clear about it being beta is by not charging anything for it. I understand there are development costs, but I don't think the amount of complaints received via twitter, blogs, forums, etc, etc is doing FC's reputation any good.

I'm glad I came across this thread as I'm reminded a key point, and that is "aTV Flash (black) Beta4 is just that, Beta Software"

 

  March 26, 2011 - 12:17pm (Reply to #19)
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I have been a supporter of FireCore and still have the original Apple TV using the original aTV Flash, although I see no further action on enhancing this offering going forward.  I sent an email asking about keyboard support and got a very prompt reply with a clear answer.  I went out and bought the Apple TV 2 and set it up according to Apple and got it updated to 4.3.  I suspect that this was my first mistake.

4.3 requires a tethered jailbreak.  I downloaded the latest build of aTVFlash Black (beta 4) I tried using SeasonPass and did manage to get the device into DFU mode, but still don't know which order of plugging and unplugging cables resulted in this, but the tool's restore failed and dropped me into the Finder.  So I attempted a restore from iTunes using the created IPSW file.  Well that froze like the high arctic.  Box dead, no joy.  I did manage to get the device restarted in DFU mode and iTunes came up and saw it asking if I wanted to Restore.  I did the factory restore which went very quickly and have the Apple TV 2 working in the default Apple mode and very low confidence in aTVflash Black.  I cannot yell and scream, it's beta software.  I am a bit disappointed though because on the old device I could launch a browser, type in a url and do some of the trainings I want from lynda.com on the big screen.  Now that former capability is gone.

I commend all the users on the forums for their efforts to help each other and did read the posts in depth, but at this point am still at the starting line.  Clearly others have made it work, I'm not one of them.

  March 30, 2011 - 6:05am (Reply to #20)
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Hi Doc,

it makes me sad, if you don't come alog with your installation, so I give you my (private) handbook how I managed access:

Step 0 • Software 10.6.x must be installed on your Mac • Update iTunes to the latest version • connect aTV via USB and install latest software (iOS 4.3) • disconnect aTV aftre update Step 1 • shut down your Mac • connect aTV via USB • boot your Mac • disconnect aTV as soon as you have to type in your account dates (user, password), or if you don't have users and no password, disconnect your aTV while the bootprocess is almost done – otherwise iTunes would open and your aTV would be detected •open Seas0nPass  (you should see both options: IPSW and Tethered • open IPSW • IPSW is creating and unzipping and so on..... • at the end you might get the message "itunes restore script failed, selecting IPWS in finder" and iTunes opens immediately and the IPSW-file is shown in the Finder • go to iTunes, your aTV will be displayed at the left side • press "alt" and "restore" • selsct the IPSW-file shown before in the Finder • the IPSW-file will be "installed" and your aTV restored at the end • finally you'll see "Done" in the Seas0npass; click it and disconnect (very important) your aTV from USB Step 2 • click Tethered Boot • if prompted "Waiting for device to enter DFU mode..." • connect USB-Kabel to aTV and.. • wait until the LED is flashing rapidly • the plug the power • and hold "Menu" and "Play/Pause" for about 7 secs (might be 8 or 9) • the boot-process starts and ends with "Tethered Boot complete! It is now safe to disconnect USB" • as soon you see this message disconnect the USB-cord and plug in the HDMI-cord (which should be connected to the TV) • take care to plug in the HDMI-cord while the LED is still flshing • after done, the aTV restarts and you can see the GUI of the standard AppleTV • ther Tethered Boot is finished and you can configure your network (AirPlay, WiFi/Ethernet)   Step3 • configure your network on AppleTV (WLAN, Password) • activate "privacy" (iTunes-Account, Password) – I'm not sure how it is called in english, I'm a stupid german Smile • if done everything correct, you'll find under the menu-option "Computer" your Mac Step 4 – installing aTVFlash • download and open the latest version of "aTV Flash (black)-file" (aTV Flash Black beta4), an image will be mounted • copy aTV Flash (black) in your "Application-folder • doubleclick on aTV Flash (black) • the installationsprocess will start • select your aTV2 (mine is 192.168.xxx.xx) • click continue • the software will be installed (it takes a few moments) • and ends up with "The installation was succesfull" Step 5 • look at your TV • you should see the option "Manage Extras" • install whatever you need and want to be installed (NitoTV, XBMC, Couch Surfer, Last.fm, ...) Step 6 (optional) • if you disconnect your aTV from power after installation (for example because you have done the installationprocess in your office and want to transfer the aTV to your livingroom – that's what I did) you need to do the whole process beginning with step 2 again. It is not enough to connect your aTV during startup to your mac, no, you need to do the complete procedure again. That's "my" way how I got it done and I'm very happy with the features and possibilities. I might add that I've never done a jailbreak before so I really was a bit nervous in doing it Smile It took me about 30-40 minutes if you need to download the IPSW file during the installationprocess and only 10 minutes if the IPSW-file is allready on your desktop.

I hope I can help some people in beeing succesfull.

Greetings Andreas

(I'm sorry for my lousy english, it's not my first language :-))

  March 30, 2011 - 7:06am
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Reading some of the posts on this forum, I do wonder if people understand the term 'beta'.  The software is a work in progress, and relies on us, the community to act as beta testers to flag up problems so they can be fixed.  Screaming and moaning that it's rubbish and doesn't work properly isn't helpful.  Reporting bugs and making informed suggestions is.  Not only that, but the software isn't officially sanctioned or supported by Apple to run on the system, so this is being developed by reverse engineering without direction or support.

If you are not prepared to put up with inevitable bugs then stay away from the software until final version is released.

As for paying up front for beta software.  Yes I agree that it's a little out of the ordinary, but $20 isn't a lot, and I dare say Firecore is only a small team and need our money to pay for the development.  Do you really expect them to work for free until final release?

I haven't posted here much, but each time I have flagged a bug or suggested something a member of the Firecore team has responded in person to say they are aware and looking into it.  How many other software companies are so personable and helpful?

  April 5, 2011 - 7:38am
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I am not new to Macs but my computer knowledge is fairly limited, this was the first time i have jailbroken anything. I used Greenposion untethered worked perfectly first time & then added aTV Flash worked first time.
I have had a few wifi issues but i do now seem to have solved that by moving the router closer to the ATV2 my only issues now are stuttery playback on avi files but i understand this will improve with the next media player.
I am looking forward to all the new additions coming, my only wish would be adobe flash so i can watch iplayer,4OD etc

  April 6, 2011 - 8:49am (Reply to #23)
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I did a tethered jailbreak with seasonpass. I then installed atvflash with very few problems. It's buggy as many people say here. But most everything works on at least the 2nd try Smile I'm pleased so far.

Really frustrated the most with the atv2 in the first place though. Shows I'm renting through the itunes store on the atv2 will not load and play. the forums are alight with the issue and no one has a foolproof solution. Waiting for that.

 

  April 6, 2011 - 3:08pm
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Its running good here. Used the latest Seas0npass - and after loading the firmware iTunes gave an error - but I just let i stay connected for a couple of more minutes... after rebooting the aTV2-- everything was OK.

 

aTV2 Flash installed without any issues

 

Now all we need is to add SMB support - and a more stable Media viewer than XBMC. XBMC is stuttering a lot - .mkv files usually stops after few minutes. 

The only solution now - is to use Plex - which - have Never made any problems at all - except from the picture quality/refresh can be better. XBMC does a better job the few minutes it is working Smile

  April 7, 2011 - 12:07pm (Reply to #25)
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SMB works fine on my Macmini via XBMC!?

  April 7, 2011 - 7:37pm
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Mine worked first time today, no issues whatsoever.  Oh well, one issue.  I have no audio in XBMC.  I have to sort that out yet.

  April 7, 2011 - 9:54pm (Reply to #27)
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Well yes - it does find shares etc... but what good is that as long as XBMC stops all the time while playing... 

Why it stoppes I dont know... perhaps its some SMB caching issues, perhaps other issus.... dont know...

 

 

  April 8, 2011 - 12:49am (Reply to #28)
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I have no issues with XBMC stopping. At one point I did, but they disappeared when I switched from wifi to wired networking.

Also, it is important that you have suppressed the prompts for updates if you are still (as I am) on iOS 4.2.1 as they can cause XBMC to crah back to the desktop.

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  April 8, 2011 - 10:02am
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XBMC keeps crashing and rebooting the ATV2. I am sure the guys are working out the bugs and will have an update very soon.

  April 9, 2011 - 5:45pm (Reply to #30)
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  jhernandez86 wrote:

Not bad for a beta.  I paid the 19.99 due to my lack of knowledge about apple tv.  But, now I know how to get around and do my own upgrades, so probably I will not upgrade.  XBMC and Plex on ATV2G have all the funtional requirements I want.  Plex has a live tv stream of Aljazera plus other plugs that in due time will work.  XBMC is the most stable right now.  I am using SMB to stream my library and right now is working great.  So far, for a beta version all this apps are working as intended.  Firecore initial add ons are no longer usefull to me, because XBMC is not only doing it, but with all the additional add ons, I am getting more than I bargain for.   There is a guy out there that was able to plug ESPN3 as an add on to XBMC and it works like a charm.

Nonetheless, I thank Firecore for introducing me to this new hobby, but XBMC and soon Plex will make them absolite.

Unless, they come out with something better and reliable.

 

Good luck firecore